Bill Gothard, Prophet or Cultist?

Sarah Posner writes:

Bill Gothard is intent on defending himself. He’s speaking with me by telephone from the Northwoods Conference Center in Watersmeet, Michigan, where he spends every January “for study and writing and reflecting and fasting.” The controversial 76-year-old evangelist wants to explain away the “distortions” of his critics, and why, he insists, that widely-discussed “Taliban Dan” ad had it all wrong.

In the ad (run last fall by congressional candidate Daniel Webster’s Democratic opponent), the Florida Republican is shown speaking at an Advanced Training Institute conference — part of Gothard’s Institute in Basic Life Principles, the $95 million nonprofit the evangelist founded in 1965 that boasts it has educated millions, including public officials, around the world at its conferences, in homeschool curricula, and in prisons. Webster is shown saying, “wives submit yourselves to your own husband” and “she should submit to me, that’s in the Bible.”

After the ad ran, Webster countered — and watchdogs and the media largely accepted — that Grayson had taken his words out of context and distorted their meaning. Still, though, Webster never denied that he believed wives should submit to the spiritual authority of their husbands. That there is a “chain of command” that families must obey has been at the core of Gothard’s teachings for decades.

Gothard insisted to me (in direct contradiction to materials on his own website) that he does not teach submission. When I asked Gothard whether he teaches that wives should submit to their husbands’ authority, he laughed, answering, “no, no,” adding, that Jesus taught “he who is the greatest among you be the servant of all. That makes the woman the greatest of all because she has served every single person in the world by being in her womb.”….

….Gothard’s effort to soft-pedal his teachings — by portraying women as venerated objects, and by saying that “authority” is simply “love” and “love” is “freedom” — flies in the face of his critics’ descriptions of the impact of his authoritarian teachings on their lives. In interviews, former adherents to Gothard’s teachings, disillusioned former members of “ATI families,” and an evangelical critic told me that his unyielding theology, including “non-optional” compliance with seven “biblical” principles (the “basic” life principles), compliance with 49 “character traits,” and other periodic Gothard revelations, are contrary to the Bible and have wreaked havoc on their emotional and spiritual lives and those of their families….

…Gothard doesn’t deny he teaches adherence to what he calls “the commands of Christ.” And even though he has developed his own highly unusual interpretation of the Bible, he insists he’s not demanding that his followers obey him, but that they obey God (or how he singularly has interpreted God’s word). Following this path, he tells me cheerfully, will bring one “success and health and happiness and joy.”…

….Gothard’s recent efforts have even extended into faith healing. He told me that a delegation of Peruvian elected officials and other leaders were impressed with his ability to heal “stress” and cancer. “God has directed us to a new approach to health,” Gothard told me, “which is taking care of stress first.” Now the Peruvians, he said, want to be a “model world nation.” That, he added, “to me is like the example of what we’ve been working for all these years.”….

….Gothard told me that America’s problems are caused by “rejecting God’s ways” and that “we should make laws that are in harmony with the laws of nature and the laws of God.”….

…Gothard’s followers can take that directive quite literally. “Jack,” now in his 20s, who had lived and worked at IBLP headquarters and was exposed to ATI his entire life, told me that after high school he “immediately jumped into the legal studies program that ATI provided, determined to create a legal system based on biblical law then become president and implement it all over the world — crazy, I know.” He has since broken with ATI….

…..Don Venoit, a conservative evangelical who founded Midwest Christian Outreach, a ministry devoted to countering the influence of “new religious movements,” has long been a critic of Gothard and documented his efforts to confront him in a 2003 book, A Matter of Basic Principles. MCO, like other apologetics ministries, considers Mormonism and other religions “cultic” and has contested the teachings of other evangelicals like Rick Warren and Brian McLaren. Still, the Venoits’ objections to Gothard are a barometer of how Gothard, well-loved by many conservative evangelicals, has drawn the ire of others….

….Venoit told me he doesn’t consider Gothard’s organization a cult, but that Gothard’s “view of authority is the core of where things go wrong.” Gothard teaches, in the first hour of the first night of his “basic” seminar that “authority is like an umbrella of protection.” If you get out of that protection, “you are in rebellion, which is like witchcraft,” and “all evil will befall you,” said Venoit.

“It’s a culture of fear, is what it is,” he added….

…..Venoit said he was provoked to challenge Gothard’s “legalistic” views on issues like marriage and circumcision, which Gothard maintains must conform to Old Testament law, and other ideas like demons are transmitted from place to place through inanimate objects. In the 1990s, MCO began receiving increasing calls about Gothard’s authoritarianism….

….Rather than engage in hermeneutics, said Venoit, Gothard “prays over large portions of scripture and God tells him what it means. Fundamentally, you have a mystic telling you how to understand the Bible.”

Gothard’s “fundamental flaw,” Venoit told me, is his idea of the “umbrella of authority or chain of command.”….

….Ronald B. Allen, now a Senior Professor of Bible Exposition at Dallas Theological Seminary, criticized Gothard’s “chain-of-command” tenets of patriarchy….

Allen called Gothard’s teaching “the basest form of male chauvinism I have ever heard in a Christian context… His view is basically anti-woman.”….

….In our interview, Gothard disputed the “terrible picture” Allen had drawn, maintaining that “God is the one who has a hammer” and that “God will use different authorities in their life to perfect the diamonds in our life. It’s not breaking the diamond, it’s perfecting the diamond. We are his jewels.”

“It’s not a harsh thing,” he insisted, “it’s a matter of perfecting the goal God has for every one of us.”…

…..Vyckie Garrison, who runs the website No Longer Quivering, “a gathering place for women escaping and recovering from spiritual abuse,” told me that she and her now ex-husband, although they lacked the money to attend Gothard’s seminars, followed his teachings through his homeschool curricula. She said her husband had believed, based on Gothard’s teachings, that he was responsible for his family’s salvation through the authority he exercised over his family, a role which turned him into a “tyrant.”….

….While many evangelical couples follow complementarian theology, Gothard’s twist on that teaching, said Garrison, is that “the man has ultimate responsibility with eternal consequences,” meaning that it “gives him the authority over every aspect of family’s life and thoughts.” In Garrison’s family this meant her husband exercised control of her and the children’s every move to ensure compliance with Gothard’s 49 character traits.

The husband provides an “umbrella of protection” or “spiritual protection from Satan.” The wife needs to be in submission, because the husband is “going to answer not just for your own life and your own walk before God but for your wife and children,” said Garrison.

While she was attempting to live up to the unattainable expectations imposed by her husband’s adherence to Gothard’s theology, Garrison was “mesmerized” by the Duggars of 19 Kids and Counting fame, who are possibly Gothard’s most recognizable followers. The matriarch and star of the TLC reality hit, Michelle Duggar, “was like my hero,” said Garrison, who found raising her own seven children overwhelming. “She makes it all look so doable.” In spite of Gothard’s controversial status, religious right activists fawned over the Duggars at last year’s Values Voters Summit, where they were honored with a “Pro-Family Entertainment” award….

….ATI provides both homeschool materials and training courses all over the world on wide-ranging topics, including law, landscaping, music, food service, interior design, and “eternity arts.” But it’s in the gender-separated seminars that Gothard’s vision for women becomes clear: they are taught how to “radiate the brightness of the Lord Jesus Christ through their thoughts, words, and actions,” become “virtuous women,” and recognize the importance of “falling in love with the Lord, accepting your design and realizing your unique gifts.” Gothard, who teaches that dating is wrong, and that couples should engage instead in “courtship,” maintains “the purpose of courtship is to determine a couple’s readiness for marriage and to discern the will of God for a covenant marriage that will benefit the world.”….

….Gothard, who has never been married, teaches that dating is prohibited (a rule echoed by the Duggars on their television show) “because you’ll give away too much of your heart.” As the blogger Hopewell wrote on Garrison’s blog, the Duggars “view dating as unhealthy, leading to a diminished capacity to love your eventual spouse… They view adulthood as something that begins with a parent-approved marriage and at no other time.”

Indeed sex is so taboo it’s not even discussed — even to condemn homosexuality. “To even mention the name of [homosexuality] was a sin,” said Jack. “To talk about sexuality in general was wrong. The ‘S’ word as we called it was in my family absolutely never mentioned. Things like masturbation — I didn’t even know what it was until I was 19 or 20. Sex was considered bad and wrong and almost like the boogeyman that you don’t talk about.”

Gothard’s own brother, who worked for IBLP, was dismissed from his organization after it was discovered that he was having sex with students, and the former head of the homeschooling curriculum, Jim Voeller, was dismissed for leaving his wife and seven children for his secretary….

First, I want to thank Sarah Posner for writing this. I have read Sarah’s articles for several years and I appreciate her skillful, passionate writing.

Second, several people with experience being involved with Bill Gothard regularly read Fallen From Grace.  I hope they add their perspective. (if they feel comfortable doing so)

My grandfather and step-grandmother were avid Gothardites.  They tried several times to get my wife and I to attend a Basic Life Principles conference in Detroit, Michigan.  If I remember right, they did talk my mother into attending. Polly and I never attended, not for any reason other than we were too busy.

I was exposed to  Bill Gothard and his “principles” in the last church I pastored. I was able to carefully watch how Gothard’s teachings and home school program affected one of the families in the church.

During the time I was at the last church I pastored I had the opportunity to visit an advanced “training” facility for Gothardites.  It was run by a pastor whom I have known since my days as a student as Midwestern Baptist College.

I watch the HBO show Big Love. Big Love is a drama that follows a Mormon polygamist family in Utah. As I watch Big Love, the similarities between the show and my time as a Fundamentalist Baptist and Bill Gothard and his Basic Life Principles is striking. Uncomfortably so.

It is hard for me not to say, “Bruce you were a cultist.” Devout. Committed. Sincere.

But a cultist, nonetheless.

Not a full-blown cult, but cultic tendencies to be sure.

Gothardism may not be a cult  but it most certainly has cultic tendencies. I will leave it to you to decide if you think they are cultic. (Google search for Bill Gothard)

Related posts:

  1. My Life with Bill Gothard Part One
  2. My Life with Bill Gothard Part Three
  3. My Life with Bill Gothard Part Two
  4. Pastor Robert Jeffress Says Mitt Romney is a Cultist
  5. The Founding of America Documents Bill
  • SteveS

    Jesus Christ Bruce…Dan Webster was my Congressman…scary business knowing he has ties to Gothard.

    • Jim Jones

       How about sanctimonious Santorum and his Opus Dei ideas?

  • guest

    One more thing please..for those who have just accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior/and for those christian’s who are coming out of bill gothard’s teaching’s, get into the word of God in which the Holy Spirit will lead and teach. Jesus said to learn of Him. Study God’s word as to who you are in Jesus Christ..what He has done for you and will do in your heart and life. The word of God tell’s us ‘we are new creation’s. We are sitting in heavenly places with Christ Jesus. ‘It is HE THAT WORK’S IN YOU TO WILL AND TO DO OF HIS GOOD PLEASURE.Fill your mind with God’s promises not to a set of rules and must do’s.God alway’s lead’s..He does not ‘drive’.He leadth me besides the still water’s,He restores my soul,He maketh me to lie down in green pasture’s.It is ALL OF GOD’S GRACE THROUGH FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS. It is HE that conforms us to the image of His Son. For those who by God’s grace through faith in His Son,do you realise that ALL OF YOUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN? Past..present and future.He saves to the uttermost! A man came to Jesus and asked Him Lord what must i do to be saved/ Jesus said ‘this is the work that you beleive on Him who He has sent.
    Our time is short and it is alarming how the tradition’s and teaching of men have infiltrated our churches. The time is coming when we christians will gather in our homes to worship and learn of the thing’s of God as there is so much error everywhere.

  • guest

    To those who follow Bill Gothard..Please come out of this dangerous following. Jesus said that in the last day’s if it were possible even the very elect of God will be decieved.Satan will use God’s word to decieve by twisting it and making it say what ‘itching ear’s’ want to hear. Gothard’s defination of faith and grace are in error. He states that faith is ‘visualizing what God intend’s to do.Visualization is a phychospiritual techique used in sorcery or witchcraft.It has NO place in biblical faith. Biblical faith is simply beleiving in God’s promises according to His word.Gothard’s teaching on the umbrella of authority is also in error.This teaching bind’s men’s heart to a system of fear not freedom in Christ. In fact while in Russia..one man overheard Gothard telling russian authorities ‘christians can’t handle freedom’.The Holy Spirit point’s us to Christ and all the principles of the new covenant. He does not drag us back to the law. Even the law was a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. We are not lawless but have the framework,dictates,command’s,of the new covenant with ALL the empowerment of God’s grace.(galations’ 2nd cor.)Please look at the fruit’s of those who follow Gothard. His teaching’s and method’s produce in the majority of his follower’s feeling’s of exclusiveness,elitism,and insulation.Gothard’s end result’s create isolationism in which is a mark of an aberrant group.I must question if Bill Gothard’s follower’s in obeying his teaching on authority will unwittedly follow him into a new world order and religion.

  • twyla byrd

    I am a devout, strong Christian, 50 year old woman who has studied the Bible for herself for many years, saved by Jesus Christ since the age of 12. I do believe wives should be in submission to the husbands, as the Bible says, because there must be structure in families, not chaos, but that the husbands should be merciful and love their wives more than they love their own bodies, as the Bible says. God is not pleased with an overbearing tyrant. HOWEVER. I am very much against Bill Gothard and his teachings, as he puts his own "spin" on things, and is very prideful, spiritually. 20 something years ago, I was convinced to attend one of his seminars by someone in my church who knew I was pursuing a divorce from my extremely abusive, violent, drunkard husband. That seminar really messed with my head, and I remember it with horror, 20 something years later! The gist of what Bill taught, way back then, was that, if you divorced, you'd be an adulteress, or adulterer, forevermore, and unable to EVER remarry and never again be blessed in the eyes of God, and not only that, you'd CAUSE your ex-spouse to be an adulterer as well. I was a young woman living in HELL and in personal DANGER every day, with my children also at risk, but I was committed to living life the way my God would have me live it. After hearing Bill speak, I felt so discouraged, trapped, and hopeless, I actually considered suicide. Shortly after this wretched seminar was the one and only time in my life I've heard God audibly speak to me in a voice that sounded like thunder. No kidding. I was weeping and praying before God by the side of my bed, desperately wanting to know how I could escape the hell I was living in, and was there ANY way God would forgive me if I divorced. Suddenly I heard a loud voice shout my name, in the empty apartment "TWYLA!" pause. "SO?!?! Yes, You messed up! But it is OKAY — I FORGIVE YOU!!! Just don't do it again!!!!!" Wow. I have heard from God many times since, because I pray many times in a day. However, that's the ONE time I heard "the shout". That very week, I contacted Catholic Social Services, and they helped me get my divorce from that monster. I later learned that in addition to beating me repeatedly and threatening my life, he had sexually molested my 5 year old daughter. I will tell you now, 20 some years later, I have absolutely contempt for Bill Gothard, because I wonder how many lives have been wrecked by his dogmatic,spiritually prideful teachings. I'm not saying that SOME of the stuff he teaches is not right, because it is. But he is waaaaayyyy off on his views regarding marriage. This is why it is so vitally important for Christians to study God's word for themselves. We can't ever simply accept whatever some man's interpretation is, because that man might be WRONG. I haven't looked at any of Gothard's media in over 20 years, so I'm not currently an expert, but if I knew of anyone planning to attend a seminar of his, I'd say "RUN — and run very fast — because the man is bursting at the seams with spirital pride and dogmatism, which is NOT pleasing to the God I serve! Plus, some of his stuff is straight up WRONG!"

    • http://fallenfromgrace.net Bruce Gerencser

      I am sure you are well meaning………BUT why should I accept your interpretation over Bill Gothards? What makes your interpretation right and his wrong? How do you know for sure? The moment a person "studies God's Word for themselves" they are accepting a person's (their own) interpretation as truth. In essence, every person becomes their own Pope.

  • James

    I have read many post on here and there are people here who don't have a clue as to what they are talking about. They read an artical now they think that have enough experiance to speak I know what the bible says and what the gothard seminars are about and they go hand in hand. at least there is someone out there who are tring to rebuild the home the way God intended it and not the way the world has destroyed it.

    • http://fallenfromgrace.net Bruce Gerencser

      Who ya talking about James?

  • guest

    If we christian's could just dump out all the book's on how to live for Jesus and turn off TBN and go directly to the word of God and 'expect' to be fed and follow Christ..there wouldn't be so much error that God has to heal us from. I noticed something about those who are heavy into Gothard. This may be harsh but i feel must be said.Those who follow gothard develope a certain 'look'.very simular to the mormon countenance.It's as if gothards teaching are clothes one puts on that identifies one as following him. It is one of spiritual arrogance and spiritual pride.Does anyone else notice this?There is a 'smugness'.kind of.look at me..how spiritual i am. Gotharism is about conforming oneself to christian ideal's rather than allowing Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit conforming us into the image of Christ.

    • http://fallenfromgrace.net Bruce Gerencser

      Going directly to the Word of God is what gave us the mess we have today. Christianity would be far better off having a Pope, the vicar of Christ, telling everyone what the Bible says.

      The Bible has much to say about how a person dresses? Should we ignore those verses?

      • James

        1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

        Catholism is definatly not the answer but way we dress will seem peculiar to those in the world. the bible tells how to dress and how to live. I have been to a Gothared seminar and have not seen what any of these articals are talking about even though I may not go now but I still like what his matirial has to say makes it very plane on what the bible says and gets us back to the basic on christian life. I have used one of his leason as a basis for one of my best sermons I have ever preached and have seen many people come and get their lifes back on track because of it.

  • http://www.on-the-other-hand.com Lydia Schoch

    Vyckie Garrison wrote a book about her experiences: "No Longer Quivering."

    I've requested it from my library. If it's anything like her blog I think you all would really like it! :)

  • Lynn

    I think basically the Gothard approach is an over-simplification of real life and real people.

    Plus it gives jerks permission to feel justified in being a jerk. It gives them a handy label to put on their abuse. They can label it godly.

    • http://www.mockwriting.com Michael Mock

      I think it may be worse than that. I don't really know, but from reading the accounts of people who have left the system… It seems to me that even if Quiverfull/ATI doesn't actually encourage abuse, at the very least they provide an extremely convenient cover for men with abusive tendencies.

  • April Galamin

    The whole system seems to be about instilling fear & then control.
    Power, that's what it is about.

    I was raised in a huge Catholic family that didn't get perks & incentives of having a television show…I have to hold back from commenting on the Duggars…
    but I will say that I thought I recall on a show that I heard Michelle & Jim bob speak of their youthful days & how she was a cheerleader & wearing a swim suit….I wonder to myself if they allow their own children the freedoms that they had growing up? I think I already know the answer to that though…….8/

    • Paula

      The Duggars were originally from my home town, they now live in the next town.  My mother knew his mother.  He was absolutely not raised the way he lives now.  His parents were decent, normal people.  The family attended normal Baptist churches, not extremely strict, as Baptist churches go.  They did NOT have a house full of kids.

  • http://scientificuniversalist.blogspot.com/ Sammy

    I always loathed the idea that men were supposed to lead women in spiritual matters. My brain works just as well as any man's. And, not to sound immodest, but I believe my capacity for rational thought is quite a bit higher than most of the people in the churches which advocate such a belief. Most of the time, they just accept anything and everything a spiritual authority says, no matter how irrational or hypocritical it might be. Of course, the men strongly oppose any theology which allows for women to think for themselves, not because they fear for women's salvation, but because they do not want to lose the power they have. That's all it is actually about: power. These men take a perverse pleasure in dominating their wives and children, which is why mental and physical abuse is so common in these households. Even if they do not consciously recognize it, that power makes them feel good about themselves because they feel in control of their world. It can even define their self-worth. A women thinking for herself might disagree with him! If these men have their self-worth tied up with subjugating their family, that's a terrifying thought.

    No one should be forced to live under the tyranny of another. Every individual has the right to decide their own religious or spiritual path.

    • http://www.on-the-other-hand.com Lydia Schoch

      I agree, Sammy! This was always a teaching that really disturbed me as well.

    • Paul C

      If you think Bill Gothard is about tyranny than you need to do your homework.  I am going through his course right now and he speaks of love, respect, honesty, character, understanding, not living in anger, forgiveness.  Sounds like the kind of cult I want to be a part of.  I know some women who have gone through Gothard’s seminar and their marriage is 100 times stronger.  They have a very respectful relationship and I consider her to be one of the strongest women I know. 

      • http://fallenfromgrace.net Bruce Gerencser

        You assume we know nothing of Gothard and his teachings. Don’t mistake differing conclusions as ignorance.